The Words of Civility
The big reason given for the recall effort against Sandy Shakes and Eric Christen is that they are not "civil." Civility is the key word for opponents of reform in D11. Christen emails have been published on several occasions to show that he is not a civil person.
Is civility really important to the status quo crowd? Are John Gudvangen, Tami Hasling, and Sandra Mann actually civil, and are the proponents of the recall effort civil?
The following messages were taken from the Gazette blog after Christen announced his resignation on November 21st. Note the civil tone of these comments:
What a sleaze! This guy could have resigned a few months ago and saved tax payers several thousand dollars. This is just the latest example of what an unethical jerk Christen is, and I can only hope that he moves back to California!-Nicole 11/22/06 06:52:42 AM
Yeah, but you see . . if gets recalled, he probably doesn't get that half million payout like that crook in D49. This way, he save's face and gets rich off the taxpayers. He ain't as dumb as he looks.-John 11/22/06 07:05:11 AM
Can't trust. thsi idiot. He should have resigned months ago. Now what does he have up is dirty little sleeve?-JS 11/22/06 11:37:52 AM
The article quites Christen as saying ' “I’m going to make my wife the happiest woman in the world tonight. I’m effectively resigning from the D-11 board.” ' Kinda sad that' the only way he can make his wife happy.-George 11/22/06 12:31:33 PM
These are only a small sample of what can be found on blogs around town. Seems as if civility is nothing more than a talking point for elections, not a practice to be followed.
The same people who are running the recall election today are the people who ran the campaigns of John Gudvangen, Tami Hasling, and Sandra Mann in 2005. Let's take a look at the civility of their campaign that year. They spent over $1 million to win their seats, and they sought to personally destroy their opponents in the process.
This one advocates talking about students and teachers. These 3 have served on the board for over one year now. As I have pointed out elsewhere, none of them has ever introduced one thought or idea or policy that will affect students or teachers in any form or fashion. Gudvangen and Hasling control the agenda setting process. They have had free reign to place anything on the agenda that they wanted to place there. They have literally brought nothing in the form of ideas to this board. Was the $1 million well spent? If you are interested in the status quo, I imagine that it was. This is the type of board member that you will get with Chaos candidates Charlie Bobbitt and Jan Tanner.
This mail piece is probably one of the most "civil" from the 2005 campaign. Of course I'm kidding.
Nowhere in the history of D11 politics have any candidates sunk as low as the 3 progressives from 2005. To mail a piece that shows this type of destruction, and then to claim that your opponents advocate doing this, is somewhat below most people's definition of "civil." Jan Tanner played an active role in that campaign as she managed Gudvangen's campaign. Anne-Oatman Gardner, who heads the recall, also played a part in this trashing of 3 very respected community members (Carla Albers, Reginald Perry, and Bob Lathen).
They claimed to be "Constructive Conservative." Unfortunately, the Progressive Majority bragged on its web site that they were able to keep the D11 school board out of the hands of the conservative community. Hardly conservative.
For the record, each of the checked bullet points that the 3 progressives espoused were borrowed from the 2003 reform campaign. The difference is that we actually implemented those thoughts and policies, while the 3 progressives opposed each of them after they were elected. You can expect the same sort of double talk from Bobbitt and Tanner.
This final mail piece derides outside money. Besides the NEA and Progressive Majority, Gudvangen, Hasling, and Mann received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Tim Gill, a Denver millionaire and homosexual activist; Jerod Polis, a Denver millionaire and homosexual activist; Pam Stryker, a Denver millionaire and gay rights advocate. Over $1 million spent, and very little of it from Colorado Springs.
The same supportes of that 2005 "civil" campaign support the recall and they are supporting the campaigns of Bobbitt and Tanner.
We do not need this brand of civility in D11.
Is civility really important to the status quo crowd? Are John Gudvangen, Tami Hasling, and Sandra Mann actually civil, and are the proponents of the recall effort civil?
The following messages were taken from the Gazette blog after Christen announced his resignation on November 21st. Note the civil tone of these comments:
What a sleaze! This guy could have resigned a few months ago and saved tax payers several thousand dollars. This is just the latest example of what an unethical jerk Christen is, and I can only hope that he moves back to California!-Nicole 11/22/06 06:52:42 AM
Yeah, but you see . . if gets recalled, he probably doesn't get that half million payout like that crook in D49. This way, he save's face and gets rich off the taxpayers. He ain't as dumb as he looks.-John 11/22/06 07:05:11 AM
Can't trust. thsi idiot. He should have resigned months ago. Now what does he have up is dirty little sleeve?-JS 11/22/06 11:37:52 AM
The article quites Christen as saying ' “I’m going to make my wife the happiest woman in the world tonight. I’m effectively resigning from the D-11 board.” ' Kinda sad that' the only way he can make his wife happy.-George 11/22/06 12:31:33 PM
These are only a small sample of what can be found on blogs around town. Seems as if civility is nothing more than a talking point for elections, not a practice to be followed.
The same people who are running the recall election today are the people who ran the campaigns of John Gudvangen, Tami Hasling, and Sandra Mann in 2005. Let's take a look at the civility of their campaign that year. They spent over $1 million to win their seats, and they sought to personally destroy their opponents in the process.
"Keep Washington interests from controlling local education?" The NEA, located in D.C., spent $200,000 to elect these 3 candidates. Progressive Majority spent the same. PM is also in Washington. Outside money? Gudvangen, Hasling, and Mann received hundreds of thousands of dollars from 3 Denver millionaires.
This one advocates talking about students and teachers. These 3 have served on the board for over one year now. As I have pointed out elsewhere, none of them has ever introduced one thought or idea or policy that will affect students or teachers in any form or fashion. Gudvangen and Hasling control the agenda setting process. They have had free reign to place anything on the agenda that they wanted to place there. They have literally brought nothing in the form of ideas to this board. Was the $1 million well spent? If you are interested in the status quo, I imagine that it was. This is the type of board member that you will get with Chaos candidates Charlie Bobbitt and Jan Tanner.
This mail piece is probably one of the most "civil" from the 2005 campaign. Of course I'm kidding.Nowhere in the history of D11 politics have any candidates sunk as low as the 3 progressives from 2005. To mail a piece that shows this type of destruction, and then to claim that your opponents advocate doing this, is somewhat below most people's definition of "civil." Jan Tanner played an active role in that campaign as she managed Gudvangen's campaign. Anne-Oatman Gardner, who heads the recall, also played a part in this trashing of 3 very respected community members (Carla Albers, Reginald Perry, and Bob Lathen).
They claimed to be "Constructive Conservative." Unfortunately, the Progressive Majority bragged on its web site that they were able to keep the D11 school board out of the hands of the conservative community. Hardly conservative.
For the record, each of the checked bullet points that the 3 progressives espoused were borrowed from the 2003 reform campaign. The difference is that we actually implemented those thoughts and policies, while the 3 progressives opposed each of them after they were elected. You can expect the same sort of double talk from Bobbitt and Tanner.
This final mail piece derides outside money. Besides the NEA and Progressive Majority, Gudvangen, Hasling, and Mann received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Tim Gill, a Denver millionaire and homosexual activist; Jerod Polis, a Denver millionaire and homosexual activist; Pam Stryker, a Denver millionaire and gay rights advocate. Over $1 million spent, and very little of it from Colorado Springs.
The same supportes of that 2005 "civil" campaign support the recall and they are supporting the campaigns of Bobbitt and Tanner.
We do not need this brand of civility in D11.
posted by Craig Cox | 3:12 PM
5 Comments:
Lots of noise, little substance -- other than to re-display your homophobia. What's the matter, Cadet FBI Guy, afraid it's contagious?
Thank you, Anonymous, for adding yet more substance to my post and for making my point about your side and "civility" yet again.
Homophobia? How does anything I posted relate to homophobia? I pointed out that your 3 board members had their campaigns funded by "outside money" and I gave the source of that money. You always mention "Steve Schuck, the developer" when you talk about our support. What phobia does that assign to you?
"Cadet FBI?" Are you anti-military or anti-law enforcement, or maybe both?
Thanks for the awful memories! We received those mailers about twice a week during the 2005 campaign season. It struck me then that you had these people attacking the 3 "conservatives," as you refer to them, like rabid dogs, and then they complained about Christen's lack of civility! Sorry, but the Christen emails never would have made their way to my house had the recipients of those emails simply selected "delete." I think that it is obvious who is causing the chaos here, and it's not the 2 who are targeted for recall.
Is it any wonder why our education system is in the condition it is in with such "adults" running it? These members of the "let's just pretend all is fine and good" crowd have so much hate in them it defies reason. What can a parent be expeted to do going up against these poeple when reform board memebrs themselves get the shit beat of them if they dare utter a word that goes against the standard dogma. One now better understands how victims of the Inquisition felt.
Unfortunately these people (the chaos causers and supporters of the mediocre monopoly that is D-11) are so well versed in this kind of passive aggressive nasty campaigning that we reformers almost don't stand a chance of ever prevailing.
Most of us on the other side, those of us who want to see this district improve to the point where people WANT to live and educate our children here, are much more decent, kind and considerate than ANY of the key players on the status quo, monopoly protecting side.
They'll use children to spread their message, then attack Christen if he should happen to have a child with him or Cox for daring mentioning his own children's educational needs.
They are a bunch of kooks, and unless people vote for Garcia and Schley, we are going to be stuck with their majority on the board.
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